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.n. ambassador susan rice. top intelligence officials say they knew from the beginning that terrorism was involved in the attacks but kept rice's comments vague to avoid compromising future legal proceedings. they knew terrorism was involved but didn't know whether the attacks were planned in advance and they didn't have the suspect's identity. still, many house repub cans are saying he's unfit to succeed secretary clinton at the state department. >> i'm just curious. john heilman, first of all -- >> elizabeth warren. >> let's just say what happened, okay? the president's punch line was al qaeda is on the run, blah, blah, blah. they politicized intel. guess what, white houses do that. i'm not shocked, i'm not stunned. i wish they wouldn't have done it. but how do you protect americans in the future and what happened after the ambassador was already killed? but how long has susan rice been in public service, like since her 20s, right? >> a long time. >> so we actually have people on capitol hill that are going to disqualify her based on one "meet the press" performance? i mean if you w
back to the president's press conference taking a pretty tough decisive tone on susan rice. and then you look at what's happening -- and also his position on the tax increases. take all of that together, it looks like more of the same. do you think -- do you sense, from your reporting, are we just having people circle each other or are their feet in stone? >> i think there's still some areas where people can move and get to the right place. but, you know, the two things i just keep thinking about is i think the business community, i think, what steve says is exactly right. seems like from the outside what they want more than anything is certain certainty. just moment to moment and minute to minute, it's crisis to crisis. that's an atmosphere not conducive toward optimal economic activity. this notion of trying to get to long-term, as you said, to long-term stability but not having short-term austerity measures that would be too depressed on consumer activity seems like where we need to end up. i think there's going to be a lot of pressure on the business community on republ
tragedy. but we have an explanation from petraeus for why susan rice said what she said. that is to say they deliberately obscured what they knew in order to avoid giving away too much to our adversaries. now you could say why did you need to do that? i'm not competent to say what advantage was gained there, but i'm not sure in the alternative what advantage anyone thinks the obama administration was going to get by misleading. the event happened. did anyone think the obama administration was trying to preserve some illusion that terrorists never would hit us as long as obama was president? we have been at war with terrorists 11 years and lost thousands of lives. i don't understand the point that graham is making, and the idea to question why did you put susan rice on the talk shows? administrations make decisions every week about who they will put out to repeat talking points. it doesn't really make much sense to me to be honest. >> to that end, then, amy, you have senator graham, other republicans, john mccain for one, they are calling for a special prosecutor. john harwood brings up
by the cia and what was ultimately embraced to am bass sore susan rice. what we mean here is there was a review process and an editing process in which the emphasis on extremist groups, al-qaida, an sar al says sharia was deemphasized in the second version used by ambassador rice. at what point did the former cia director believe that this was an act of terrorism or an act of extremists? a s*r member of the committee told fox a sort time ago was what the director laid off was an evolving picture on intel kwrepbs. >> he reinforced the facts -- in the first 24 hours he felt at that point, or the cia felt at that point that this was a protest as a result of what happened with the film. he clarified that after -- after more information came in there was not a protest. >> reporter: one lawmaker telling fox after the hearing that he did feel that there were discrepancies between the former cia director's statements today about what he said on september 14th, and the recollection of that lawmaker. let's listen. >> his testimony today was that from the start he had told us that th
and mistress. and the investigation continues in the varying attacks told by petraeus, ambassador susan rice and others about the deadly libya terror attack. chief intelligence correspondence looks at the outcry of promotion for rice. >> 97 members of the house republicans oppose the possible nomination of ambassador susan rice for secretary of state. because ambassador rice is viewed to willfully or incompetently misled the american public in the benghazi matter. >> you want to explain to the american people about benghazi, tragic situation that four americans were killed. who do you pick? you pick somebody that you admit knows nothing about what happened. why would you pick somebody that knows nothing in you pick the person most politically complaint, good friend of yours that would read anything you gave them. >> rare joint appearance on the sunday talk show with the republican counterpart in the house, they said congress will investigate the cia talking point. >> the process will be checked out. we will find out who made changes in the orig gnat stat statement -- originate statement. >>
the controversy is growing surrounding her potential replacement, susan rice. assistant house democratic leader james clyburn is now suggesting that race may have something to do with republican opposition to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., including those calling rice incompetent for her handling of the benghazi terror attack. >> these are code words. we heard them during the campaign. during this recent campaign, we heard senator sununu calling our president lazy, incompetent. these kinds of terms that those of us, especially those of us who are born and raised in the south, we've been hearing these little words and phrases all of our lives, and we get insulted by them. >> let's bring in republican strategist and former huckabee campaign manager dick salzman and former campaign manager steve elmendorf. good morning. >> good morning. >> steve, could race have something to do with the opposition to rice as clyburn suggests? >> they haven't come up with any, to me, any substantive reason they're opposed to susan rice. i think the republicans need to understand that we won the election and that
but it was not something she does and it was a hot potato and the white house seemed eager to put susan rice in that seat. >> i agree totally. i think mark is right, that the right thing probably to do is more information is better than less information on this topic. i watch "meet the press" yesterday, i watched your reaction after mike rogers. i had a similar reaction. kind of throwing that allegation of maybe the president knew without any evidence behind that claim, is particularly when it relates to foreign policy this is a serious charge here. i would say for all the talk of bipartisanship, at least the talk of bipartisanship on the fiscal cliff, this is a place where the parties at least at the moment disagree vehemently. i would always suggest a little bit more caution when we're talking about foreign policy than domestic policy. but partisanship has not ended at the water's edge on this one. >> chris cizilla and mark halperin, we have to leave it there for now. 15 million americans living in poverty, a subject not addressed during the campaign, los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa, and a new r
leaders say they will now investigate the talking points given to u.n. ambassador susan rice and why they did not reflect cia findings shortly after the attack that was a terrorist-related incident. on "meet the press" senate intelligence committee chairperson dianne feinstein defended the house against allegations it changed the script for plital purposes ahead of the election. >> this whole process is going to be checked out. we're going to find out who made changes in the original statement. until we do, i really think it's unwarranted to make accusations. >> and joining me now is rachel smolk and michael smirkonish and jimmy williams. ray she will, let me start off with you. i want to play a couple of other clips from "meet the press." let me play lindsey graham, because what we heard from senator feinstein was a response to some of the comments made particularly by mr. graha miker. >> would this white house mislead people about american security events? i think they might. when the bin laden raid occurred they leaked every detail. we heard details about classified information. t
and not ambassador susan rice. nothing against ambassador susan rice. it is just that john kerry deserves it. he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and oh, by the way again without john kerry saying oh yeah, president obama, barack obama you can do the keynote speech in 2004 when you're only a state senator who's running for senate without that opportunity, there is no obama campaign in 2008. john kerry wants the job. give it to him. got some guy malcolm johnson would calls that 100% idiotic statement. too bad, malcolm. that's how it is. special shout out to the folks on twitter. dab ra and alan -- debra and alan and a couple of others. honesty following us on twitter. >> tweeting at bp show, on this topic, patricia says the media has been reduced to reporting g.o.p. conspiracy theories which is a good point. buckeye kenny saying they're going to try to turn this into something to ruin the president and on your comments about john kerry, j. h. z. says john kerry and state put scott brown in the senate.
. now a new call for answers from susan rice herself. negotiating fiscal cliff. did nancy pelosi just draw a red line? today she's saying she won't sign off on any deal that does not increase taxes on the rich. >>> and president obama is dealing with all of this while in the midst of his trip through asia, including israel and gaza on the brink of war. >> we're going to have to see what kind of progress we can make in the next 24-36-48 hours. if we're serious about wantsing to resolve this situation and a create a genuine peace process it starts with no more missiles being fired into israel's territory. >> first off, we're in a developing story in the middle east. let's go now to stephanie gosk, who is in tel aviv with the latest. what's the tone on ground today? >> well you hear the president say that as long as rockets were dropping, it was going to be impossible to get a cease-fire here. and the rockets definitely keep on coming. and there have been attacks back and forth. a couple of volleys of rockets that came toward tel aviv. intercepted by the israeli missile defense system, i
the white house change the talking points? and the talking points is a reference to what susan rice said on a round of morning talk shows just a few days after the attacks that sort of cemented this idea in the initial days that this spontaneous demonstration that officials now say did not exist was a reason for what took place and susan rice at the time also said the intelligence was not fully processed. what we've heard from democrats is this idea that there were sort of two waves of an attack and that sort of supports what they think susan rice and the white house was talking about in the first two weeks. we heard more of this this morning on "morning joe" with our friends there, and chambliss, the republican on the senate side in charge of the intelligence community. here is what he talked about with respect to were the talking points given to susan rice based on classified information, unclassified information, or was there some political overlap? >> we spent an awful lot of time on these talking points. the one thing i can tell you a long time before unclassified talking points are
.n. ambassador susan rice. he wants her to admit she was wrong to call the benghazi attack a response to a video. we spoke with senator mccain a short time ago. >> senator, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> i understand, sir, that you think ambassador susan rice should apologize for going on five sunday morning talk shows pushing that video protest story. there are a lot of people that are on tv that say things that are wrong. she has had public condemnation over it by many. isn't that enough? >> well, i think when you're speaking for the president of the united states which she was, that's very different from people just going out and giving their opinions on various talk shows, so i think it's vastly different. she was speaking from the white house. she had access to classified information, so again, she should have known better because we now know that there was information from classified sources which clearly indicated that this was a al-qaeda affiliated attack as well, and by the way, that still is hard to understand, why you would keep information from the american people which would
to the united nations, susan rice, to secretary of state. it feels like on the domestic front we have a fiscal cliff and we're going to work things out, but there's still a lot of kind of opposition and you can hear in mccain's voice a dislike for where the president is heading. what does the republican party do now? cut deals? where do they go? we know where they went after 2008. they unified against obama. it worked for them in 2010. why did it not work in 2012? >> i think both sides will have to consolidate their bases. find out how much leeway each side has. and then they can come to the table and say, all right, can we raise rates or raise are revenue a little bit. can we cut -- how much can we cut entitlements? how much will the two sides be able to give and i think though you see in john boehner and in president obama two people who are willing to work together if they can get the wings, the fringe wings of either side to kind of get onboard and come together. >> you know, one thing i would note just as it relates -- first of all, susan rice hasn't been nominated for secretary of state.
nations, susan rice, said on a sunday talk show after the attack that it was a mob protesting an anti-muslim video and not a terror strike. republicans contend the obama administration wanted to downplay terrorism from the start. >> the issue is from what was released from cia headquarters on friday afternoon in a unclassified talking point memo to the point that it was changeed to the sunday morning talk shows. there is a gap of about 48 hours that we need to account for and understand why it was changeed. >> all of the intelligence community have told us is that initially they recognized there were extremists and terrorists involveed and thought it came from a protest, that it took them time to sort that out, that there was no political spin in this. >> reporter: the ci attacking points would have gone through numerous hands. the various intelligence agencies, the white house, the state department, the justice department before going out to lawmakers. in washington, molly hennenberg, fox news. >>> just ahead, details on president obama's historic weekend trip. plus, the commute to
. he didn't stay very long. the "a-team" reacts coming up next. and ambassador susan rice, apparently the president's top choice to replace secretary clinton. more than benghazi can propose problems for ambassador rice. we will take a close look coming up next. and president obama keep saying the same thing. speaker boehner keeps asking for the same thing. we will be talking with one of more than 200 congressman who have signed the grover norquist antitax pledge. lou: congressional republicans pushing back hard against the president and democrats over the fiscalliff proposal. the white house saying that the real problem is republicans who won't give in on new taxes for top earners. my next guest sound grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge concerning. congressman nunes, it is great to have you with us. >> this little visit i timothy geithner to speaker boehner, in which he bsically says we are going to talk about stimulus -- that is pretty hard step to push or to stomachh isn't? >> yes, timothy geithner has been coming here for four years. he has come before the ways and means commit
susan rice from being nominated to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state if president obama makes that nomination, he now says he would block all nominations for anybody to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state until he feels satisfied that he, john mccain, has received the information that he wants to receive about libya. this coming from the man who didn't bother to show up to the three-hour briefing on libya that was in his committee last week. but he's not embarrassed by that. he wants america not to have a secretary of state until he gets what he wants. even though we don't know what it is that he wants. because it's definitely not more information, because when information is being offered, he's not showing up for the briefings. how did john mccain get to be the republican party's north star on foreign policy in 2012? i mean, senator mccain had a capital h heroic military career. being held as a prisoner of war and holding himself in circumstances as a prisoner of war that have never been duplicated in modern times. but in terms of whether that translated into
't stay very long. the "a-team" reacts coming up next. and ambassador susan rice, apparently the president's top choice to replace secretary clinton. more than benghazi can propose problems for ambassador rice. we will take a close look coming up next. and president obama keep saying the same thing. speaker boehner keeps asking for the same thing. we will be talking with one of more than 200 congressman who have signed the grover norquist antitax pledge. congressman nunes coming up next it [ male annouer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. u. is to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know il be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. ther
for coming back. >> john: it is all a pleasure to decimate bill's space. here is what happened susan rice went on tv and said a bunch of cautious stuff based on talking points about how it looked like well-armed extremist took advantage of a protest. john mccain is calling rice stupid and accusing her of lying over and over again. would john mccain care about this if the comments hadn't happened during his show. if only she had been named condoleezza, she could have lied about anything and john mccain would have believed what she said. i count benghazi because to me it represents john mccain's last dying gasp for credibility in his own party. you have john mccain and lindsay graham who are exploiting benghazi benghazi, and they are doing it to take republicans like them again. >> that's a good point. we knew this was going to happen during the election. but now that it is over, and obama won, in a land slide -- >> john: and it's par for the more to democrats to buckle. >> good point. but why are they still pushing this? >> because they are still running for president o
committee . susan rice, i do -- susan rice went on television based on the information that was available at the time and the briefing that she was given information and intelligence that she had no part in collecting. the kind of statement that is anyone who had been given those briefings would have made in public. obviously, this was on an unclassified buys sis but she was given information that she had that has subsequently been updated. it was not wrong or deliberately misleading in any way. there had been the belief that there had been a protest that developed into this attack. so susan rice as the president very clearly said, if anyone has a problem with the intelligence, they should take it up with the intelligence community and the president himself. he said come to me. and so to besmurg her incredible career and her stat chure and the words that came out of her mouth is completely inappropriate. and by the way inconsequential al. that is i've asked the question would anything had been different if the intelligence had been completely accurate at the beginning? would there have be
that some of the criticism being lobbed at our u.n. ambassador, susan rice, is being delivered by what one law maker calls racial code words. >>> and the mysterious explosion that destroyed dozens of homes, but police say this is now a criminal homicide investigation. we'll tell you why. >>> and doomsday predictions are getting renewed, attention, as we round out the year 2012. but fox news began investigating these theories in june of last year. we were away ahead of these late comers to the party, and starting tomorrow we'll tell you what we found. >> this is the temple of the inscription, the final racing place of the mayan king who reigned here for nearly 70 years. under his rule architecture, art and strongmy flourished -- astronomy flourished. >> the way they line up is turning out to be a very rich field of study right now. >> there seems to have been an ancient idea as above, so below to bring down the perfection of the heavens to earth. and in some way to unite heavens and earth. megyn: fox news alert, moments after the israeli army reports what it says is the first military fatal
. susan rice gave a misleading report. >>neil: the president was upset that republicans were ganging up on her. to your point, she was the person brought out on all the shows to talk about this. it seemed like false rage? >>guest: she has been with him since 2008 and he was pushing her for secretary of state, still very well might, if that occurs, if he picks rice, you will have a brouhaha in washington over it. >>neil: would she be accepted? there is so much baggage attached? >>guest: there is a risk in doing it. you can now get someone like john kerry put in as secretary of state in a heartbeat and she can be national security advisor and avoid a more public scrutiny. >>neil: they are worried about jesus christ because they would lose the senate seat. >>guest: that is what they say. >>neil: but they have a cushion. >>guest: the middle east is in a tense situation and he is hid of the senate foreign relations and is a more likely person that susan rice. certainly the republicans would green light him, not that they love him but he has relation ships and rice icon with rebound and john
, not the white house, wrote unclassified talking points for susan rice that were deliberately vague to avoid the compromising legal issues. that led to charges that politics were involved, something the spy agencies tonight say is just not true. >> andrea mitchell, who will remain on this story for us, thank you. >>> there is also news tonight on a story that got a whole lot of national attention on friday and had people spending the weekend passing around recipes for homemade twinkies and hoarding what they could find across the country. at its heart, though, this is a business story with a lot of jobs at stake. tonight, there may be a reprieve for hostess and their 18 thousand workers. more outside of chicago, kevin, good evening. >> reporter: hey, brian, well it would appear that all the screaming headlines and dire predictions about the demise of hostess food and of course all the snack foods we're all so familiar with. well, that may have been a tad premature, and hostess may have a longer shelf life than predicted. of course, they announced they were going bankrupt and liquidating, tha
today, today the talking points given to susan rice after the benghazi attack, those talking points were published. and if those talking points are what she was given to say, she hued essentially exactly to what she was briefed to say by the intelligence agency. so on the matter of her and whether she's the architect of the great coverup and can't be secretary of state and all these other thing, i thought today that settled it. >> it did, but i also think -- i guess i was to distinguish between two trends that happen in the republican party. there's this conspiracy mongering and this believing your own ridiculousness that happens. dick morris was calling into that agenda 21 briefing. that's a fairly prominent person in the american right these days. so there's that at one end. then there's the nihilistic obstruction. and the war on susan rice seems to be more in that latter category. whatever theories that they are picking up that happen to be by their side so they can wound her are about the implaquable project of political obstruction that's been a defining feature of republicans parti
, she accident go out them put out dr. susan rice are the u.n. ambassador. very interesting that today, president obama says, you know, susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi, i don't know what she was doing on the show. >> didn't she make her safe key player or a person put up by the administration to launch the defense. she could have said, we believe there are a number of possible theories but she didn't take that option. >> she was a good soldier did what the administration told her to do. she read the talking points. she had more -- >> did she act in good faith, do you think? >> i can't get inside her brain. i don't -- i think that she was repeating the intelligence and what the white house told her to say. what she was saying is similar to what everyone in the white house and the state department was saying at the time. so, i don't think that she was doing anything other than what she had been instructed to same the big question not whether this was one of the prominent theories, it was all a spontaneous protest from the anti-muslim video, it was, obviously, one of the promin
out the term al-qaeda and inserted extremist in the talking points that went to eventually susan rice and told americans? who edited those talking points? that was the question given to david petraeus on friday, no answer there. >> clayton: we thought we'd get it, so friday we didn't get it. thought maybe saturday, we didn't get it. sunday, no answer, but new insight into exactly some of the editing process done with the talking points and a statement from the white house deputy national security advisor, ben rose, the only edit made by the white house and state department was to change the word consulate to the word diplomatic facility. those are two words. since the facility in benghazi was not formally a consulate. we were presented with points, and the only edit made by the white house was the factual edit how to refer to the facility. no mention though of removing al-qaeda and putting in the term extremist. so still we have a gray area, something in between the white house and the intelligence community somebody edited it. >> so petraeus testified on friday, al-qaeda was a part o
politically charged controversy is over u.n. ambassador susan rice's comments five days after the attack. why she blamed it on benghazi demonstrations, officials now say didn't even happen. and why she didn't mention terrorist forces? intelligence officials now believe actually targeted the u.s. consulate there. democrats emerge saying the answer was simple, she was using these unclassified cia talking points which omitted mention of extremist elements because it was still classified and could have compromised intelligence sources. >> she used the unclassified talking points that were signed off on by the entire intelligence community, so criticisms of her are completely unwarranted. >> reporter: democrats accuse republicans of unnecessarily assassinating rice's character. >> to select ambassador rice because she used an unclassified talking point, to say that she is unqualified to be secretary of state i think is a mistake. >> reporter: but republicans say the problem is rice freelanced. >> she went beyond that. and she even mentioned that under the leadership of barack obama we have decimat
. democrats say this explains why u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice said after the attack that it was a mob protesting and anti-muslim video and not a terror strike but republicans contend the obama administration wanted to downplay terrorism from the start. >> the issue is from what was released from c.i.a. headquarters on friday afternoon in an unclassified memo to the point it was changed to the sunday morning talk shows there is a gap we need to account for and understand why it was changed. >> all the intelligence community have told us that initially they recognize there were terrorists involved but they thought it came from the protests, that it took time to sort that out. >> molly: c.i.a. talking points would have gone through numerous hands, various intelligence agencies, white house, state department, justice department before going out to lawmakers. >> gregg: so nobody is terribly forthcoming about who did it. molly henneberg, thanks very much. >> heather: illegal immigration a hot button issue and today we understand that republican lawmakers are now working on
that is-- still embroileded in the question of benghazi, and particularly focused on susan rice. >> he does. and one point david made i wanted to follow up on, and that is the arab spring has made it impossible for any leader-- mubarak could really ignore hamas. but now, given the arab spring and the democratization of policy, even though we see mr. morsi today sort of reversing that policy, proven both elected and unelected leaders can be dictatorial. that hamas got a preemence and prominence it had not had before in this showdown. we had tu nearby awe had egypt, we had turkey-- all basically endorsing much to the demise and disadvantage of the palestinian authority and its decline. i think that's-- but the benghazi thing is fascinating to me. basically because, i think the charge against lindsey graham, for example, is unfair, that somehow he's driven by terminal sexism. this is a senator, a republican senator from south carolina, who did vote for the confirmation of elena kagan and for justify sotomayor-- >> brown: you're referring to him coming out against-- >> and threatening this
, in my perfect world susan rice would be named c.i.a. director and bill clinton would be named secretary of state. >> bill clinton. >> caller: yes. and if he's not interested, i nominate al gore. >> john: wow. >> caller: i feel like we need our a-team out there. and i think bill and al together could have a great adventure and -- >> bill and al's great adventure. >> caller: i feel susan rice's talents and background would so -- is desperately needed in the c.i.a. which has only been run by old white men. i think of course she would be well qualified as secretary of state. but i feel bill clinton and al gore are such tremendous assets that -- >> john: this is my favorite call of the day so far. i have to break it up. i'm not sure i'm with you as susan rice for c.i.a. i don't know what her law enforcement or espionage or counter terrorism credentials are. >> caller: well, being with the nsa, her background there. i mean how qualified was petraeus for c.i.a. head? i'm thinking she is -- an international expe
cease-fire. u.s. ambassador susan rice spoke after a closed-door meeting, saying the security council must not do anything that could undermine egypt's mediation efforts. russian ambassador vitaly churkin offered a veiled criticism of the united states. >> some members -- one member of the security council, i'm sure you can guess which, indicated sort of quite transparently that they will not be prepared to go along with any reaction of the security council. >> u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon spoke after meeting in cairo with his counterpart on the arab league, nabil al arabi. >> my message is clear -- both sides must halt firing immediately. further escalating the situation will put the entire region at risk. >> ban will again call for a cease-fire when he visits israel. >>> three major countries in asia -- japan, china, and south korea -- have agreed to start talks for a free-trade agreement. they're putting aside territorial disputes between japan and the two ore nations. japan's trade minister, yukio edano, china's commerce incity, chen deming, and bark tae-ho met in phnom penh
cuts and spending or risk-taking the economy. lawmakers are facing a partisan battle over susan rice and whether it makes her unfit to serve as secretary of state. petraeus was not talking about the sex scandal making shockwaves through the capital. a post-election trip, but no vacation after a busy week. >> rocket fire from gaza strip has stoped. the israeli military have not attacked israel since the night before. to negotiate an end to the confrontation. a doctor in the tourism is facing several trudges this morning after large amounts of chemicals commonly used for bombs and explosive devices were discovered at his home. they found several weapons when they searched the home of roberto rivera. they found a -- they got a report of potential hazardous material in the house. two police helicopter smashed into each other. one clipped and other as they were landing and the other was taking off. it happened yesterday at the pasadena's police department's helipad. still ahead, addressing the table. some great ideas to make sure your thanksgiving table complement's the big feast. >> she
that it was al qaeda. it's not really clear why that was taken out of the talking points given to susan rice. it might have been because they didn't want to tip them off that they knew it was going on. >> i get it. and the information is evolving. certainly the white house should have to be held accountable and answer questions if there is some difference in their messaging. that's certainly true. but, andrew, what administration wants people to die on their watch? no administration wants that. and it certainly appears that many people -- this is an ideological thing to many people. people are contorting themselves to try to make sense of some conspiracy theory and then when you look at it logically, you're like, really? are you kidding me? >> i think regarding benghazi, this happened several weeks before the election. and i think it's just been -- it's really been churned within the media and the political machine. we've lost a little bit of sense of proportion about it, i think, to some degree. >> and it's people who, quite honestly, don't like the president and don't like the white house
talking points that susan rice repeated five times on sunday morning talk shows. the word is that's what they told her, so that's what she said. she said the attack was a response to that anti-islam film. officials now say it is a planned terrorist attack. it turns out somebody removed references to terrorism for those talking points. republican lawmakers demanded to know who made the change. today they didn't buy the explanation that we are hearing from the intelligence clapper. >> in thursday the classified session james clapper gave sworn testimony that they didn't know who was responsible for changing the so-called talking points on benghazi which critics say minimized -- minimized the role. they say it was the intelligence community that was behind those changes. the intelligence community made sub stan sigh changes before the talking points were sent to government agency partners. partners is a reference to the white house. the justice department and the pentagon and the fbi. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee says, quote, it gives a new explanation that di
is that in the document that susan rice basing remarks on she used the term "extremist" instead of al-qaeda. "tremists." that could include a range of people including al-qaeda but, of course, we know that ansar al-sharia in libya has someda. it's not clear they were taking directions from al-qaeda. but the difference between saying specifically we know this was an al-qaeda attack, or extremists. they did not say we know it's al-qaeda there. indications it might be al-qaeda. that is the difference. semantics but to some people it's now the point of great controversy. >> shannon: if we are talking about changing a word, al-qaeda to extremist that thing what about the video? who included that? >> it's not that there was one word change. al-qaeda became extremist. that would be irrelevant. the story she told was a false narrative. it was about a mob inspired by a video. we know, herron reported that the f.b.i. knew two days earlier by asking ones who had been in libya and the ones we evacuated. i mean in the benghazi consulate. we evacuated them. they were on the scene. they saw what happened. they told
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